Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa?

The New Republic has a new story up on the Clinton campaign: What Went Wrong, as told through the words of fund raisers, organizers, staffers and advisers.

Before I cherry pick the quotes that best summarize my own explanation, I find it somewhat interesting that there is no mention of the May 2007 memo by Deputy Campaign Director Mike Henry, in which he said that the campaign shouldn't compete in Iowa, instead focusing on New Hampshire and the following states. Henry presciently wrote that

In past presidential campaigns smaller states, like Iowa and New Hampshire, played a more prominent role in securing the nomination. That process was based on the momentum that was created from winning Iowa or New Hampshire. Thirteen of the last 14 major-party nominees have won Iowa, New Hampshire, or both. Senator Clinton's husband is the only exception. But I think this old system is about to collapse and it will happen this year because of the impact of primary elections that are being held on February 5th.
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After assessing this proposal against core elements of our plan, my recommendation is to pull completely out of Iowa and spend the money and Senator Clinton's time on other states. I believe that the changes to and the volatile nature of setting the Democratic nomination calendar has changed the way the nomination will be won in 2008. I believe the "small state first" approach that we are familiar with, that bases winning nomination on momentum is about to be turned on its' head this year. It used to be protected by party rules and the lack of a national primary day. We no longer have either. The party has no leverage to maintain scheduling discipline and we now have a national primary on February 5th with 20 states choosing their nominee on the same day.

He lists six reasons for his suggestion, three of which proved to be particularly accurate:

2. Dedicating significant funding to Iowa will draw money away from other important states. Spending Senator Clinton's time and money in other states will be more efficient and increase our chances of winning the nomination. And it will improve our fundraising. After the first four states (not including Florida) our campaign will only have $5 - 10M to compete in the 25 February 5th states.
3. Iowans will not be the first to vote. Over 15 states have no excuse early vote or vote by mail programs that allow voters to cast their ballots well before caucus day in Iowa. These states are: Florida, Arkansas, Arizona, California, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah, Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas.
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5. Proportional representation is a ticking time bomb that the campaign needs to deal with by campaigning hard in February 5th states now. The campaign should focus on winning a majority of congressional districts in each state. This will limit our exposure to a movement candidate beating us after the early states. 

As a result, he nailed the state of the campaign heading into Super Tuesday on February 5th:

Remember all of the states have a rule that you eat what you kill. So if we have a split decision in Iowa. Senator Clinton wins New Hampshire, and Obama or Edwards wins South Carolina. We now enter into the February 5th mega states with no money, little time to raise it, and have to rely on earned media to get our message out. Coverage will be about equal among all the candidates who have survived (for argument sake let's say Obama and Edwards). If we invest the money and time we save by leaving Iowa on a strategy to win majorities in each of the February 5th states we limit our exposure.

The Clinton campaign rejected Henry's advice, however. One week after having his advice vindicated on Super Tuesday, Mike Henry resigned as Deputy Campaign Manager. Clinton, low on funds, went on to be routed in state after state throughout February, too low on funds to compete and not having put sufficient effort and troops in place to organize those states after essentially fighting to a draw on Super Tuesday. Obama ran up large margins of victory in small states and caucuses where the Clinton's didn't compete, banking on coming back in Texas and Ohio. By ceding several contests entirely, however, Clinton let Obama build up a pledged-delegate lead that she was unable to overcome.

To be clear, Henry's strategy was not the same as Giuliani's disastrous gamble of skipping the early states and betting it all on Super Tuesday, largely for two reasons:

1) Giuliani's position in the Republican field was not as dominant as Clinton's in the Democratic field. Despite the media's infatuation with his campaign, Giuliani never managed to put any real distance between himself and the other candidates in terms of either support or fundraising. Clinton started off with much larger initial advantages here, yet Obama was able to catch up. Giuliani was never out in front of the pack to the same degree, and he could not, therefore, afford to let someone else (or multiple candidates, as it turned out) build momentum.

2) Henry's strategy wasn't to skip all of the early states, as Giuliani did, but rather to skip Iowa and move straight to New Hampshire, where Clinton went on to win. He advocated campaigning in all of the early states except Iowa, whereas Giuliani skipped head to Florida and Super Tuesday. Prior to Super Tuesday, Henry still had Clinton competing in Nevada, South Carolina, and New Hampshire, two of which she managed to win despite spending inordinate amounts of time and money in Iowa. Had she used those resources elsewhere, the results may well have been better for her than they were, and Obama's Iowa victory wouldn't have seemed as astounding. No more so than her victory over him in West Virginia, where he didn't compete at all.

As for the Clinton people themselves, here are some of their more persuasive explanations, courtesy of TNR:

"Clearly [Obama] was a phenomenon. He was tapping something really different than anyone had ever seen before. ... Months and months before Iowa, he was getting record crowds. I just think they should have really gone after him back in the summer and in the fall. I know it would have been a difficult decision to make back then. She's the leader of the party, the standard bearer, the big dog. Everyone thinks she's gonna win and walk away with it. Why go picking on Barack Obama? But that's just something the campaign should have done sooner."

"We didn't lay a serious glove on him until the fall. We tried to a little bit, but we weren't successful. We did silly stuff, like talk about David Geffen. It wasn't the substantive contrast we needed to make."

"There was not any plan in place from beginning to end on how to win the nomination. It was, 'Win Iowa.' There was not the experience level, and, frankly, the management ability, to create a whole plan to get to the magical delegate number. That to me is the number one thing. It's starting from that point that every subsequent decision resulted. The decision to spend x amount in Iowa versus be prepared for February 5 and beyond. Or how much money to spend in South Carolina--where it was highly unlikely we were going to win--versus the decision not to fund certain other states. ... It was not as simple as, 'Oh, that's a caucus state, we're not going to play there.' That suggests a more serious thought process. It suggests a meeting where we went through all that."

"Harold Ickes's encyclopedic understanding of the proportional delegate system was never operationalized into a field plan. The campaign inexplicably wrote off many states entirely, allowing Obama to create the lead of 100+ delegates that he has today. Most notably, we claimed the race would be over by February 5, but didn't devote any resources to the smaller states that day and in the weeks that followed, allowing Obama to easily run up margins and delegate counts on the cheap--the delegate margin he will win by."

"Probably our second biggest mistake was much more operational: Making our chief strategist our one and only pollster. It is impossible to disagree and have a counter view on message when the person creating the message is also the person testing the message."

"We would just cringe. Ugh. Such an out-of-touch corporate run kind of campaign--exactly what you'd expect from Mark Penn. He did fine during his time in the Clinton White House. But running a campaign to capture the nomination in a change environment is something he had never done. Just look at what he did for Joe Lieberman!"

"Keeping the same team in place [after New Hampshire] meant that pre-Iowa planning and strategic errors continued nearly unabated, were not corrected. ... Too much damage had been done by the time Maggie Williams took the helm."

"There was financial mismanagement bordering on fraud. A candidate who raised more than a quarter of a billion dollars over the years had to pump in millions more of her own money to stave off bankruptcy."

"We placed a huge financial bet on Iowa and raised its importance by sending senior staff there. And because we didn't plan for a national campaign, we couldn't point to an operation that could withstand an Iowa blow the way Obama could after New Hampshire."

"Penn was preoccupied with the national polls. We were up in the national polls, but Iowa was always a challenging thing for us. Early, early on, our internals showed us a significant number of points behind. ... In Iowa, Penn consistently would show polls that were of the eight-way. That was basically meaningless because it wasn't going to be an eight-way race. The candidates that were the second-tier candidates were not going to reach the threshold [of 15%]. The real race was the three-way. But he always focused on the eight-way when we'd start going over the numbers in Iowa. It was frustrating to the state staff and other people as well. It just showed a lack of understanding and a disconnect."
Cross posted as Intellectual Carpet Bombing. 



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Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (2.00 / 1)

No, he wasn't. If she had lost by more than she did in Iowa, it would have been an even worse shitstorm than she got. Remember, she only won NH by a couple percentage points. Furthermore, we need Iowa in the general, so she would have had to find a way to connect there regardless.


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:14:48 PM EST

Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (none / 0)

I agree. Absent 92, when everyone but Harkin skipped it, I can't recall a time when someone  blew off Iowa and went on to win, or even come close to winning the nomination.


by Mayor McCheese on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:48:43 PM EST
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There was no avoiding Iowa (none / 0)

The only theme the Clinton campaign had for 2007 was inevitability.  You can't be inevitable if you are skipping states.

Clinton's problems in Iowa were thematic.  


by fladem on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:46:35 PM EST
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Hillary gets better with time is the problem (2.00 / 2)

The problem is Obama gets worse with time, and Hillary gets better. So it's natural that the campaign trajectories played out this way. Hillary is more popular than she was at the start, Obama less so.

I don't see how she could have squashed him early because any effort to do so on her part would have hurt her. There is so much negative material on him that her campaign didn't use, because everybody is ready to pounce on the Hillary being Negative meme.


by catfish1 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:15:59 PM EST

Re: Hillary gets better with time is the problem (2.00 / 3)

Wrong...

On two fronts.

First - you're completely ignoring any geographic and demographic differences in states in favor of a strict chronological interpretation.  This is silly - heck - check out the state-by-state approval ratings over time by Bush... It wasn't a universal, nationwide slump - he's dipped in various regions at various times.  

Forget the states - forget when each state held it's caucus or primary - focus solely on votes by county.    The single best, and single highest concentration of Clinton vote margins came in Appalachia.  It wasn't "rural" (Obama won rural NV and has also done very well in western rural counties).  It wasn't even "white".  

It's Appalachia - from Souther PA, western VA and NC, WV, southern OH, into northern MS, etc.

And before you start - I'm not accusing Appalachia of anything... I'm not saying its race.  Hell, for all I know, Appalachia is a hotbed of gas tax opposition and/or mandated health insurance support.

I'm simply stating the fact that Appalachia has overwhelming backed Clinton - more so than virtually any other American geographic area.... regardless of "when" the contests took place... and yes - their votes count just as much as anyone else's... but there's only one more state with any ties to Appalachia.

Second:

I don't see how she could have squashed him early because any effort to do so on her part would have hurt her

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous.  I cannot think of any more polite way to put it.

Clinton's entire 2007 operation was based on inevitability.   She said it.  Her campaign said it.  Hell -- just look at her campaign strategy!   To her credit, they've been able to cobble together a strategy post-February -- but it's patently obvious they expected the nomination to be settled by Feb 5.

She DID try to squash him (and Edwards and the rest of the field).  I don't blame her for that - that's what frontrunners TRY to do.  That's what frontrunners are SUPPOSED to do.

When you're "ahead" - even if no votes are cast and you're only ahead in the "narrative" - it is absolutely not in your interest to string things out.

She DID try to squash him.

It just didn't work.


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:31:11 PM EST
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Re: Hillary gets better with time is the problem (2.00 / 2)

I don't see any evidence that the tried to squash him at all. I think she tried to ignore him, but I don't see any evidence that they really went after him until much later.


by Mayor McCheese on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:08:36 PM EST
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Re: Hillary gets better with time is the problem (2.00 / 1)

Perhaps...

We might be just semantically arguing "squash" -- I'm not really thinking 'squash' as in take head on, I'm thinking 'squash' as in the way we step on bugs... i.e., terminating a non-entity.

In other words - inevitability AS squashing.


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:13:51 PM EST
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Well, they did but with very foolish attacks (none / 0)

Like kindergarten essays, comments about Reagan, and other trivial nonsense.

Too bad they didn't go after him with things that might have provided more resonance, but maybe they felt those things might be radioactive in the Democratic primary.


by lombard on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:19:03 PM EST
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Re: Well, they did but with very foolish attacks (none / 0)

I think they were afraid, probably with correclty, that going negative too early would turn off a lot of voters that they would need later.


by Mayor McCheese on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:32:45 PM EST
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Re: Well, they did but with very foolish attacks (none / 0)

That's probably about right...

I guess it's why I took "squash" to be the whole inevitable meme -- it's how the frontrunner squashes opponents... you don't necessarily acknowledge the candidacy to the degree that attacking does... you "squash" by simply running as the inevitable nominee, being gracious enough to go through the process (and again let me emphasize, not a slam :-), so to speak.


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 03:05:35 PM EST
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Re: Hillary gets better with time is the problem (none / 0)

there was a pretty good diary here maybe a week ago talking about the history and demographics of appalachia and why folks there may not be receptive to obama.  


by the mollusk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:13:33 PM EST
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Partially true (2.00 / 1)

But, in heavy Latino areas, her support has been about as strong as Appalachia.  So, I would say she has two very strong demographic areas.


by lombard on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:20:44 PM EST
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Re: Hillary gets better with time is the problem (none / 0)

wait, Obama is LESS popular? Are you smoking something? He was polling 20 points below her nationally!


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:00:23 PM EST
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Re: Hillary gets better with time is the problem (none / 0)

Her negatives have decreased over time?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:01:09 PM EST
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Obama is now running attack ads in Oregon (1.83 / 6)

and Hillary is being told she is PERMITTED to stay in the race as long as she doesn't attack him.

This campaign has woken me up. I am now a feminist, 23-year-old male Obama supporter's insistence that "it's not sexism" advice notwithstanding.


by catfish1 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:17:35 PM EST

TR for off-topic ranting (1.00 / 4)


by JJE on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:00:13 PM EST
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I think (2.00 / 1)

she definitely got hurt by Tom Vilsack's early exit from the race.

It's a very interesting period to do a post-mortem on.

Few folks remember that Vilsack was even in the race at one point.  

I think the end of Vilsack was actually when the DLC came out for Hillary Clinton (recall that Vilsack ran the DLC at the time) -- that all but ended Tom as a legitimate candidate -- if the organization he was chairing wasn't even going to back him, what was the point?

His fundraising dried up - so badly that he couldn't even legitimately compete in his own state.... he dropped out, endorsed Clinton, and the rest is history.

I'm not saying any of this to trash Hillary Clinton or her ethics - and I'm also just blindly theorizing/spitballing.

My guess?

I suspect the original plan was to hope for a replay of 1992 - recall, no one really competed in IA in 92 because IA Senator Tom Harkin was expected to romp.   Bill - expected to finish second - ended up third behind Tsongas... It was laughable analysis at the time because I think Tsongas pulled 4% while Clinton pulled 3%.  

I bet the Clinton camp was hoping to use Vilsack as the stalking horse this time around, let Edwards fight for 2nd -- and hope to pull in 3rd, knocking out Obama.

However - I bet early reports showed things going awry, and Clinton in real danger of finishing 4th -- tough to survive -- and Vilsack struggling to pull off a Harkin.

Vilsack exits - HRC has to compete in IA - and suddenly, chaos.

If I had to guess, I bet some folks in Clinton's campaign (I'm looking at you, Mark Penn) were too clever by half.   They had few good options in Iowa and once she pretty much got backed into competing -- it went from bad to worse.


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:18:59 PM EST

Re: I think (none / 0)

Wasn't he the guy that had John Stewart bring out the AFLAC duck to say his name?

Ah, that's a great thing to have your run for the most important office in the world be remembered for.


Beat McCain!
by thezzyzx on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:57:49 PM EST
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Spot on, spot on. (none / 0)

In Stewie Griffin's (Family Guy) voice...


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:21:20 PM EST

He was not right (none / 0)

You can't skip Iowa unless a favorite son like Harkin is running. It's never worked. Didn't work for Lieberman, Gore in 88 or Wesley Clark. How does a pereceived front runner skip on of the most publicized and earliest contest?


by Mayor McCheese on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:31:07 PM EST

Re: He was not right (none / 0)

Ahhhh!

But see above.

People forget that Tom Vilsack WAS originally in this race!

How quickly we forget.

Like I said above - and absolutely admitting to being a vilifier, hater, and opponent of all things DLC - I find it absolutely delicious the way things turned out.

I don't actually hate or even dislike Clinton - I just hate the DLC.

And - I just LOVE how the DLC, chaired by Vilsack, jumped the gun an endorsed Clinton, all but ending Vilsack's bid.

If the DLC had just stayed quiet - and waited until late January -- Clinton COULD have skipped Iowa, let Obama and Edwards battle it out to see who got 5% and who got 4% while Vilsack ran away with his home state... then withered up shortly after.


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:34:08 PM EST
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Re: He was not right (none / 0)

Right, but was not the Henry memo written after vilsak's withdrawal?


by Mayor McCheese on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:43:24 PM EST
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Re: He was not right (none / 0)

Yup -

You're right.

Vilsack "withdrew" in late feb.

My bad.

My faulty memory thought he had stuck around into spring.


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:47:55 PM EST
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Actually it kind of did work (none / 0)

for Gore in '88.  He was able to rally on Super Tuesday.

The problem was that he didn't carry the momentum to Illinois and New York.  


by fladem on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:49:03 PM EST
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BTW (2.00 / 3)

Thanks for posting this!

This is actually what I used to love to come to MyDD for...

It was the absolute best parlor on the internet for political junkies, armchair campaign strategists, and would-be poli-pros to kick around mechanics, strategy, and what not.

We'd check our partisan preferences at the door (as best we could), try to kick around the strategy, tactics, messaging, themes -- and really try to objectively look at what happened, what we thought should have happened, and what we thought would happen.


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:41:27 PM EST

Henry was absolutely (none / 0)

right.  She should have taken his advice.  The trick during this campaign has been expectations and minimizing the other's wins.  Perhaps Edwards would have defeated Obama in Iowa if she wasn't there; losing in Iowa would have effectively ended Obama's chances.  Hillary would have then gone on to close out Edwards on February 5th.

I recall a Jerome Armstrong post about how Hillary did pretty well with the liberal base of the party in Iowa.  Obama won Iowa more on the support of moderates and conservative democrats.  The roles have been reversed since Iowa but perhaps, more of the liberal vote would have gone to Edwards had Hillary not competed in the state.


by Blazers Edge on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:58:10 PM EST

Re: Henry was absolutely (none / 0)

I still don't see you as a frontrunner, you can write off a state that the media treats as if it were the be all and end all and where polling suggets you can do well, as it did right up until the end.


by Mayor McCheese on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:09:52 PM EST
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Re: Henry was absolutely (2.00 / 1)

Well... then you can't really run the inevitability campaign (and like I said above, that's NOT slam... It's the type of campaign a frontrunner SHOULD run.  It dries up fundraising and institutional support for your opponents).

You can call it nonsensical nuance, but had I been crafting Clinton's message, I wouldn't have messaged her campaign as a continuation of the first Clinton administration, I would have run it as a COMPLETION of the first Clinton administration.

I.e., rather than running on her experience around what she did in Clinton I -- running on experience around what still needed to be done.

She could have cut off all of the "have it both ways" talk early -- ironically BY having it both ways.

...by coming out in strong opposition to certain aspects of Clinton I that didn't work.

...by reinforcing a streak of independence.

...by introducing much earlier her being a "fighter" - as in "See?  I'm even taking on the former President! My own husband!".

Rather than frame her campaign as cleaning up after Bush II like her husband did after Bush I - talk about how the trajectory was right from 92 to 00 -- but the angle of the trajectory needed adjustment.

She could have had her cake and ate it, too -- Change and experience.


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:11:09 PM EST
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Re: Henry was absolutely (none / 0)

Damn, pretty sharp analysis IMO. Maybe we will be able to have good discussions post-nominee.


by souvarine on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:41:02 PM EST
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Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (none / 0)

I'll have to read the article, but my take is yes, Mike Henry was right for the most part. The effort Hillary spent in Iowa (she really went all in) did not gain her much. She could have invested a reasonable effort, maybe lost IA by another point or two, but been in much better financial shape going into NH.

She would have been much better off if she had removed Penn early, rather than Doyle.


by souvarine on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:07:36 PM EST

Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (none / 0)

Great write-up. I'm particularly interested in this:

5. Proportional representation is a ticking time bomb that the campaign needs to deal with by campaigning hard in February 5th states now. The campaign should focus on winning a majority of congressional districts in each state. This will limit our exposure to a movement candidate beating us after the early states.

They recognized this! They saw that the delegate game was a game that was going to be very hard to win.

Mike Henry was probably right to say that Clinton should have skipped Iowa. She spent something like 80% of the money she had raised up until then on Iowa alone. That's horrible practice. If she had made her stand in New Hampshire and campaigned in South Carolina and Nevada more, she probably would not have gotten creamed in SC and would have won by a larger margin in Nevada. Obama's Iowa win would have been marginal, I think, as Huckabee's win was. Obama would have been forced to compete with Edwards and Clinton could have sat in NH waiting for them.

This is not the same as what Giuliani did, however; he basically ceded state after state and said 'wait a month, then I'll get a win'. If Clinton had sat in NH and campaigned in SC and NV, she may have the nomination today.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:13:52 PM EST

Didn't Hillary have her own (none / 0)

"bitter voters" moment when she made a remark about how she Iowa shouldn't strive to be like Mississippi in terms of the number of state reps and governors who have been women?  The gaffe probably didn't go over too well with Iowans.  However, as evidence of how much her campaign has improved over the last two months, check how she is doing in the polls for Iowa; she's within the margin of error in the two most recent polls in Iowa, a result that would have been stunning two months ago.

Her polling in Arkansas is unbelievable as well; she's up fourteen over McCain in a state that Bush laughed his way to victory in 2004 by almost double digits.


by Blazers Edge on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:16:34 PM EST

Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (none / 0)

Excellent diary and discussion.

I don't think Henry was right, though. She couldn't have skipped Iowa.

But her staff (read:Penn) actually figuring out the rules and how to win -- or at least show well -- in the state would have been good.

The anecdote about Penn passing out eight-way polling for Iowa is damning, perhaps as damning as him thinking that Dems played winner take all. There's simply no reason to care what Chris Dodd is polling statewide in Iowa. None. You only care about any particular district where your internal field numbers are showing him flirting with 15 points.

All that money Penn spent on statewide numbers? Wasted. Meanwhile, Obama and Edwards were compiling field numbers, numbers that gave them leverage to make horsetrading deals with the Joe Biden and Bill Richardson people -- trading delegates here and there to keep them out of Hillary's column.

In the end, though, HRC was simply running against the wrong guy in the wrong year. But I wouldn't hire Mark Penn to run a middle school student council election.


by DeskHack on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:18:28 PM EST

Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (none / 0)

Isn't it the height of irony -

Mark Penn's whole philosophy is that the era of macro trends is over -- and that one should focus on micro-trends.

All the while, tactically -- he ran the election completely absent of that small scale nuance!


by zonk on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:21:57 PM EST
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Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (none / 0)

It is actually the height of irony, because he was focusing on small slices of the population at large.

And he was reportedly obsessed with the screens on Iowa polls, to the point where he was dicking with them all the time. And, he reportedly told Senator Clinton the day of the caucuses that she would win Iowa -- based on his ridiculously complex screening process.

You know who nailed Iowa? The Des Moines Register.

Know what their screen was? One question.

"You going to caucus?"

"Who for?"


by DeskHack on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:27:27 PM EST
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I don't know about this part (none / 0)

"All that money Penn spent on statewide numbers? Wasted. Meanwhile, Obama and Edwards were compiling field numbers, numbers that gave them leverage to make horsetrading deals with the Joe Biden and Bill Richardson people -- trading delegates here and there to keep them out of Hillary's column."

Didn't happen in the Iowa Precinct I worked.

The only people who understoof Iowa were the Obama people, who saw the turnout explosion happening.  I worked for Edwards in Iowa, and the Edwards people didn't see turnout over 160 (it was 240k)


by fladem on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:51:19 PM EST
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Re: I don't know about this part (none / 0)

I actually think we're in agreement, I just phrased things poorly.

The Obama people pounded the streets to get their own numbers. They were confident in their turnout model, and they were correct.

The Edwards folks somewhat saw the turnout coming, but didn't see quite how high it would be.

The Clinton people were the only ones who didn't see a wave of some size coming. And my point was that was likely because they were doing statewide polling with tight screens -- likely only talking to people who caucused the time before.

That's the only way I can figure that they thought they were ahead right up until caucus day.


by DeskHack on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:35:22 PM EST
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Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (none / 0)

In retrospect, Henry's advice looks brilliant.

First, in a 2-person race, Edwards might well have beaten Obama in Iowa, thereby stopping Obama from getting any momenum.  And  I believe that Edwards would have been a much less formidable candidate in the long run.  Hillary would have kept much of the Black vote, most of the Latino vote, most of the Asian vote, and a good chunk of the White vote to beat Edwards and a weakened Obama in a 2-3 person race.

Second, even if Obama did win in Iowa, he may not have gotten as much momentum out of it without having beaten Clinton there.

Third, Hillary Clinton spent an enormous amount of time and energy in Iowa.  Imagine if she had devoted that time and money to Feb. 5 caucus states as opposed to Iowa.

Of course we'll never know if this would have worked or not, but Henry certainly looks prescient.


by markjay on Fri May 16, 2008 at 03:05:05 PM EST

Re: Was Mike Henry Right about Clinton in Iowa? (none / 0)

Mike Henry is only partially right. Had Hillary not been close in Iowa, she would not have been competitive in New Hampshire. If she had not been competitive in New Hampshire, she would not have been competitive on Super Tuesday.

Clinton did spend money inefficiently in Iowa. She was relatively late to arrive in Iowa, and then when she arrived, she spent large sums of money on paid media rather than building up the ground troops.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:15:44 PM EST


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